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au12tag
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Posted - 12/13/2021 :  18:28:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What about Valley High? Hoping they can get out of 6A. Thanks

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BrianYoung
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Posted - 12/13/2021 :  19:47:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Any idea what Regions 4 and 6 look like in both 4A and 5A? I'm mainly trying to figure out where Lincoln and Munford will be.

Also, does Ohatchee stay 3A or go back down to 2A?



Lincoln, Munford and Ohatchee all remain where they were. Almost no changes in region opponents. Looks like Southside and Springville join Lincoln. Talladega joins Munford. No changes for Ohatchee region.



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Pleasant Valley moving down or staying 3A? If moving who is their replacement?
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dparker
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Posted - 12/13/2021 :  21:57:00  Show Profile  Visit dparker's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by au12tag

What about Valley High? Hoping they can get out of 6A. Thanks

Au12Tag



Valley should be 5A no problem. likely region 3



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dparker
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Posted - 12/13/2021 :  22:00:40  Show Profile  Visit dparker's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by BrianYoung

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Originally posted by dparker

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Originally posted by kodyaufan2

Any idea what Regions 4 and 6 look like in both 4A and 5A? I'm mainly trying to figure out where Lincoln and Munford will be.

Also, does Ohatchee stay 3A or go back down to 2A?



Lincoln, Munford and Ohatchee all remain where they were. Almost no changes in region opponents. Looks like Southside and Springville join Lincoln. Talladega joins Munford. No changes for Ohatchee region.



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Pleasant Valley moving down or staying 3A? If moving who is their replacement?



Pleasant Valley will be 2A. Looks like the old region may just have seven team.



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BamaJoe
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Posted - 12/14/2021 :  06:49:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's like Christmas morning for HS football fans in Alabama. Some will get candy and nuts and some will get a lump of coal!

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mcslate
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Posted - 12/14/2021 :  11:04:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not a ton of changes in any class for my neck of the woods, which is right along the typical imaginary border of R7 and R8.

As for how it affects my alma mater (Brewer), the Region gets slightly harder with Fairview and West Point entering and Mae Jemison and Lee-Huntsville leaving though I still wouldn't consider it exactly deep. West Point is kind of a wash but Fairview has been solid recently. Plunkett's been successful at his stops (Cullman aside). If he can keep participation high in his second year a playoff spot isn't totally out of the question.
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BamaJoe
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Posted - 12/14/2021 :  11:06:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by mcslate

Not a ton of changes in any class for my neck of the woods, which is right along the typical imaginary border of R7 and R8.

As for how it affects my alma mater (Brewer), the Region gets slightly harder with Fairview and West Point entering and Mae Jemison and Lee-Huntsville leaving though I still wouldn't consider it exactly deep. West Point is kind of a wash but Fairview has been solid recently. Plunkett's been successful at his stops (Cullman aside). If he can keep participation high in his second year a playoff spot isn't totally out of the question.

I think the biggest surprise in North Alabama is Madison Academy moving to 3A.

Go Eagles!
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cwak
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Posted - 12/14/2021 :  11:15:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My quick analysis. I'm sure it has happened before but I don't remember it but the former 6A region 7 was completely obliterated. Usually something stays the same if only the region covers the same geographic area or some teams in one region get rebranded as another. That region got scattered to the wind.
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dparker
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Posted - 12/14/2021 :  11:45:51  Show Profile  Visit dparker's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ok. No more speculation. The new realignments are posted now on the home page.

Have fun. I will get the coaching changes done today and the teams will then reflect any changes. I can't add the 2022 season for the teams until I got the new realignments so I am scrambling to get everything updated.





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mcslate
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Posted - 12/14/2021 :  14:00:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by BamaJoe

quote:
Originally posted by mcslate

Not a ton of changes in any class for my neck of the woods, which is right along the typical imaginary border of R7 and R8.

As for how it affects my alma mater (Brewer), the Region gets slightly harder with Fairview and West Point entering and Mae Jemison and Lee-Huntsville leaving though I still wouldn't consider it exactly deep. West Point is kind of a wash but Fairview has been solid recently. Plunkett's been successful at his stops (Cullman aside). If he can keep participation high in his second year a playoff spot isn't totally out of the question.

I think the biggest surprise in North Alabama is Madison Academy moving to 3A.

Go Eagles!



My first thought was "MA and Fyffe would be a fun matchup" but then saw Fyffe dropped back down to 2A.
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kodyaufan2
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Posted - 12/14/2021 :  15:17:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My biggest takeaway at this point is that the Ohatchee-Piedmont-Saks-Wellborn region got split up, with Ohatchee and Piedmont staying together and being added to the region Fyffe was in this past year. So somehow the region for those two teams managed to get even tougher because they now have each other, as well as Sylvania, Plainview, and Geraldine as region games.
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BamaJoe
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Posted - 12/14/2021 :  15:31:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by mcslate

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Originally posted by BamaJoe

quote:
Originally posted by mcslate

Not a ton of changes in any class for my neck of the woods, which is right along the typical imaginary border of R7 and R8.

As for how it affects my alma mater (Brewer), the Region gets slightly harder with Fairview and West Point entering and Mae Jemison and Lee-Huntsville leaving though I still wouldn't consider it exactly deep. West Point is kind of a wash but Fairview has been solid recently. Plunkett's been successful at his stops (Cullman aside). If he can keep participation high in his second year a playoff spot isn't totally out of the question.

I think the biggest surprise in North Alabama is Madison Academy moving to 3A.

Go Eagles!



My first thought was "MA and Fyffe would be a fun matchup" but then saw Fyffe dropped back down to 2A.

Fyffe will still be very good but I believe they are normalizing just a little bit. Based on talent level I believe it is borderline criminal for MA to drop to 3A.

Go Eagles!
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BamaJoe
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Posted - 12/14/2021 :  15:32:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by kodyaufan2

My biggest takeaway at this point is that the Ohatchee-Piedmont-Saks-Wellborn region got split up, with Ohatchee and Piedmont staying together and being added to the region Fyffe was in this past year. So somehow the region for those two teams managed to get even tougher because they now have each other, as well as Sylvania, Plainview, and Geraldine as region games.

My first thought was that has to be the hardest region in 3A. That thing aint for the weak for sure. Look for Sylvania to really make some noise.

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TheMUBM
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Posted - 12/16/2021 :  08:29:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can someone explain to me the reasoning behind flipping regions? I am sure the AHSAA has a reason for it, but I don't understand it. What I mean is, for instance, the Brooks/Deshler/Wilson/Central region has always been 4A R8, while the schools on the northeast end of the State (Madison Co/Madison Academy/NJHS) have always been R7. But it appears this classification that has changed and now the Brooks region is 7 and the NE region is 8.
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bigcdiddy16
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Posted - 12/16/2021 :  10:48:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Can someone explain to me the reasoning behind flipping regions? I am sure the AHSAA has a reason for it, but I don't understand it. What I mean is, for instance, the Brooks/Deshler/Wilson/Central region has always been 4A R8, while the schools on the northeast end of the State (Madison Co/Madison Academy/NJHS) have always been R7. But it appears this classification that has changed and now the Brooks region is 7 and the NE region is 8.



No clue, the AHSAA screws up a lot. My guess is that with a new AHSAA director they did not even look at keep those things the same. They also screwed up on reclassification stuff. Just today they released new regions for 4A and 3A. Madison Academy and Alabama Christian will move back into 4A.
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robinsonakr
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Posted - 12/16/2021 :  13:21:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
https://www.al.com/sports/2021/12/more-changes-to-ahsaa-reclassification.html
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cwak
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Posted - 12/16/2021 :  15:08:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Its happened a lot over the years since going to regions through different classifications its always 7 and 8 I've never noticed a rhyme or reason to it.
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cwak
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Posted - 12/16/2021 :  15:23:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
With Madison Academy moving out of 3A region 7. The 4 teams going to the playoffs are known its just a matter of seeding. Short of a miracle by Asbury or Brindlee Mtn. But I guess thats why they say they play the games.
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spartan91
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Posted - 12/17/2021 :  11:27:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So the competitive balance rule is being applied regardless if a school has been elevated in class by the rule. Both Alabama Christian and Madison Academy were in 4A by enrollment and are now in 3A by enrollment but are having to stay in 4A because of CB points.

Edited by - spartan91 on 12/17/2021 11:50:39
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robinsonakr
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Posted - 01/03/2022 :  08:54:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just saw this article about Escambia County in Atmore. Looks like they think they should be 3A and not 4A:

https://atmorenews.com/2021/12/22/no-stepdown/

There appears the slim possibility that ECHS could still move down to Class 3A. Scott Mason, the local school?s head football coach and athletic director, said state education officials are looking into possible discrepancies between the state?s attendance numbers and the school?s numbers.

?The situation is currently being reevaluated by the Alabama Department of Education between ECHS and ECMS [Escambia County Middle School] because of number discrepancies that are out of our control,? he said. ?We have 3A numbers, but something is not adding up. We feel like we have similar numbers as W.S. Neal, but there are some extenuating circumstances that drive us over the limit which are now being revaluated.?
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