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ChiefWilly37
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Posted - 11/01/2023 :  09:26:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Coming from Georgia, it seems strange to me the way the AHSAA determines which team plays at home after the first round of the playoffs. Why does a lower-seed team get to host a playoff game just because they had to travel the week prior? To me if a team won their region they have earned the right to get to play at home until they match up against another number 1 seed team. That should be one of the perks of winning or placing high in the region. Can anyone better explain why the AHSAA playoffs are set up this way?

TheMUBM
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Posted - 11/01/2023 :  10:16:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No real explanation that I know of other than "it gives more teams a chance to have a home game and stops teams from having to travel every round."

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robinsonakr
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Posted - 11/01/2023 :  11:16:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ive never understood it either. I have seen region champs in the second and third rounds have to travel to lower seeds because of this rule. And sometimes the distances in the second and third rounds can be far.

You would think they would emphasize winning the region championship more and letting these seeds host throughout the playoffs instead of the less travel rule or the top of bracket rule.

The only way a region championship is beneficial is in round 1 and when you host someone from your own region.

Always has boggled my mind!
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kodyaufan2
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Posted - 11/01/2023 :  11:39:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TheMUBM

No real explanation that I know of other than "it gives more teams a chance to have a home game and stops teams from having to travel every round."

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Yeah I think these are the answers. I assume the home teams still get a cut of the money from ticket sales, so it gives more teams the opportunity to make extra money by hosting a game. Plus travel in the playoffs is typically a lot further than regular season travel, so a lot of these smaller schools can't afford to potentially make a 4-6 hour round trip four weeks in a row.
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dawgfan09
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Posted - 11/01/2023 :  14:43:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If both 1 seeds advance to the third round how is home field determined. If both played 2 home home games?

bc
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TheMUBM
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Posted - 11/01/2023 :  16:28:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As silly as it sounds. The team on top of the bracket hosts in that scenario.

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kodyaufan2
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Posted - 11/01/2023 :  17:31:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's the thing that has always annoyed me, because Region 1 is usually at the top of the bracket and therefore always has the advantage there.
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GiglnTiger
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Posted - 11/01/2023 :  19:32:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As someone who?s played under the AHSAA and was on a second seed team that won state, we had hosted the first round and traveled all the remaining back in 2003. I can?t complain about how it is. I think it?s fine the way it is. It?s fair for giving all teams chance to host if they keep winning. Furthermore, I think at some point teams like to travel and play at new stadiums and see new communities while riding the charter bus. It?s kind of a breath of fresh air.

I do agree with what was said on region 1 always being up top of the bracket. I think region playoff placements should be rotated yearly like the playoff pairings.
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Edited by - GiglnTiger on 11/02/2023 07:45:29
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GiglnTiger
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412 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2023 :  19:36:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TheMUBM

As silly as it sounds. The team on top of the bracket hosts in that scenario.

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I think a change that could be made is that if two 1 seeds meet in the playoffs then the team with the better record or higher ASWA ranking hosts or maybe use the tiebreaker points scenario as an option.

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Randolph County Tigers

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2017 Class 3A State Runner-Ups, 1998 Class 3A State Runner-Ups,
1984 Class 3A State Runner-Ups, 1979 Class 2A State Runner-Ups

Edited by - GiglnTiger on 11/01/2023 19:37:42
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BamaJoe
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Posted - 11/01/2023 :  20:03:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I kind of like the way it is. Two reasons: Cutting down on the amount of travel is good. (May not work out that way for us this year) Also, not all regions are created equal. So if you are a 4 and go on the road and beat a 1 you should be able to host.

Go Eagles!
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powerlineman
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114 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2023 :  18:46:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seeding does help like in the case of Winterboro & Pickens next week, we both traveled but since they were a 3 seed and us a 4 so they get the home game.

It?s definitely set up to cut down on travel costs and to spread the wealth to everyone
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TheMUBM
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Posted - 11/11/2023 :  19:26:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah there are factors. Brooks will host Priceville this week. Priceville is on top of the bracket, but both have traveled the same amount so it defers to the higher seed. Brooks is a 3 Priceville is a 4.

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TheMUBM
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672 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2023 :  19:28:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BTW congrats on your win Powerlineman. I thought yall had a chance, but I thought Evans would be too much for ya'll. Them Alpine boys showed out.

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GiglnTiger
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412 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2023 :  21:34:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by powerlineman

Seeding does help like in the case of Winterboro & Pickens next week, we both traveled but since they were a 3 seed and us a 4 so they get the home game.

It?s definitely set up to cut down on travel costs and to spread the wealth to everyone



Powerlineman, I recall that username on the old AL forums. Same person?

Edited by - GiglnTiger on 11/11/2023 21:35:34
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WinstonCountyGrad
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Posted - 11/13/2023 :  10:43:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I miss those old al.com forums :)

We need a few more posting here.

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Bum Pickins
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72 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2023 :  12:30:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It seems like Fyffe always plays at home during the playoff. So, I went back and checked. Not counting state championship games, out of their last 40 playoff games, they have played 32 of their playoff games at home. That seems like a lot.

Edited by - Bum Pickins on 11/13/2023 12:56:47
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powerlineman
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114 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2023 :  17:23:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gig,

Yep it?s me

And yes I miss the old Al.com boards. Man we had some fun back then lol
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powerlineman
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114 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2023 :  17:30:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TheMUBM

BTW congrats on your win Powerlineman. I thought yall had a chance, but I thought Evans would be too much for ya'll. Them Alpine boys showed out.

Twitter (Or X, whatever) @TheMUBM



Thanks! We have found another good coach finally since Fossett left (now at Comer) and he has fielded a few good teams and we have some decent talent coming up as well. I?m knew at worst we?d compete but I definitely didn?t expect to score 20 unanswered off the bus then give up 24 unanswered back to DH before we woke up again then the shootout in the 2nd half was nuts.

I think Pickens County this week may put us out though, I honestly don?t think we go over there and win but you never know
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kodyaufan2
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Posted - 11/15/2023 :  18:46:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by powerlineman

quote:
Originally posted by TheMUBM

BTW congrats on your win Powerlineman. I thought yall had a chance, but I thought Evans would be too much for ya'll. Them Alpine boys showed out.

Twitter (Or X, whatever) @TheMUBM



Thanks! We have found another good coach finally since Fossett left (now at Comer) and he has fielded a few good teams and we have some decent talent coming up as well. I?m knew at worst we?d compete but I definitely didn?t expect to score 20 unanswered off the bus then give up 24 unanswered back to DH before we woke up again then the shootout in the 2nd half was nuts.

I think Pickens County this week may put us out though, I honestly don?t think we go over there and win but you never know



Known Coach Mansfield for a long time. Great coach and even better man. He waited a long time to be a head coach, and I'm glad he's been successful at Winterboro.
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powerlineman
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114 Posts

Posted - 11/16/2023 :  21:20:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Now we just have to make sure we keep him
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Mosleh87
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Posted - 11/17/2023 :  21:23:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
6A Gadsden City won and will be traveling to play Parker who beat Oxford.
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